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Author Topic: New constructor's question  (Read 195 times)

Toast

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New constructor's question
« on: January 03, 2018, 04:46:03 PM »
Hi, all. I'm just getting into puzzle constructing and I'm working through my first 15x15 grid, using Crossfire. My experience so far has been similar to what is described in the "Sage Advice" articles: I put in what I think are interesting answers and then get stumped putting in respectable fill around them. After flailing around a bit, I rip out some of the answers I wanted to keep and start fresh, with interesting words and phrases I've encountered along the way.

What I have a question about is a point that Nancy Salomon made in "Some thoughts on word lists" -- she wrote:

"Coming up with a good fill [...] involves identifying the most constrained sector(s) of the fill and starting there to make sure one has acceptable alternatives."

This is surely sound advice, but I'm having a difficult time picturing what this means in a practical sense. How do I identify constrained sectors in order to start there? Are there clues that you look for in the grid design or is it letter combinations that might originate from some of the longer or themed entries?

mmcbs

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Re: New constructor's question
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2018, 09:02:39 PM »
Sorry, I'm not familiar with Crossfire, but I'm told it's pretty feature rich, so perhaps that is built in. In Crossword Compiler, the system immediately figures out which individual space has the fewest possibilities and starts there. But it may be a combination of entries in a particular sector that cause the problem. You can eyeball this by considering the number of entries that have multiple letters already forced by theme entries or others - this increases the odds of problems. Another factor is the nature of the letters - that is if there are a lot of high score scrabble letters in a section, it's likely to be tough to fill.

Another consideration is the word list itself, because if it isn't robust enough, many more sections will be tough to fill. There are good word lists on this site for members, and perhaps an even better one on xwordinfo.com for a fee.

And, finally, if you have a sector that you just can't seem to conquer, it may be time to add a "cheater" blank square, re-arrange the theme entries (if possible), or even redesign the grid. We all have to do some of all of those things once in a while.
Mark McClain
Salem, Virginia, USA
https://crosswordsbymark.wordpress.com/

Toast

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Re: New constructor's question
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2018, 08:13:42 AM »
Thanks for the tips, Mark. I think I'll use part of this snow day to work on the puzzle.

RichP

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Re: New constructor's question
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2018, 10:51:53 PM »
I started using the xwordinfo wordlist in Crossfire with a "min fill word score" of 50, and it made finding a clean, fillable grid much easier.

 


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